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| NMI’s recent
design survey shows business confidence is strong right now in UK
and Ireland; do you see this reflected elsewhere? |
| Yes. It is 4-5 years
since the downturn of 2001 and it is very clear that there is a real
resurgence of the high-tech semiconductor industry. Markets are truly
global and mainly consumer dominated. Electronics integration is opening
up more doors and driving the delivery of more and more applications
(particularly in computing and communications) to an ever-increasing
number of consumers. The market is now more mature and steady, providing
great opportunities and great design challenges. |
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| What are the particular
strengths of the UK? |
| The UK has always had
some interesting strengths, highlighted by the level of VC investment
in start-ups and degrees of innovation. The UK is strong in software,
which is especially relevant given the increasing number of embedded
software applications and greater levels of integration. The wireless
market is particularly strong in the UK. Increased integration has
enabled, for example, the combined mobile phone/MP3 player - the
wireless and consumer markets now being synonymous.
The UK has a tradition of providing IP blocks for other players,
particularly processor cores and blocks for wireless applications.
The embedded software field is now completely interlinked with
chip design and, going forward, it is wide open to what extent the
UK’s processor cores, wireless technology and software expertise
can be leveraged.
Whilst on this topic, it is interesting to note Synopsys have recently
acquired Virtio (see http://www.virtio.com/)
to expand its presence in h/w and s/w co-development and modelling.
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| Which regions of
the world are the hot markets for Synopsys right now? |
| Israel is making huge
investment in start-ups; Growth in Eastern Europe is slow with Russia
seemingly unsure how to translate their oil wealth into investment
in technology. China particularly stands out with 400 new design
companies last year. There has been a slight decrease this year
as stronger companies have taken over the weaker ones in a Darwinian-type
process of survival of the fittest. China is strong on pushing through
an engineering perspective - of the top 10 leaders of the country,
every one is an engineer – they really think about technology!
There is a strong process through the education system, incubation
and in VC investment such that a graduate enters a company already
very well trained. The problem lies in management expertise which
takes 5-7 years to develop for every level of management; you can
teach skills in schools, but not experience – this takes time.
India has seen a rapid growth of more established companies, mostly
large multi-nationals, driven by the cost benefits and strength
of available talent. However, there is still little entrepreneurship.
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| What are the main
technical challenges ahead for the EDA industry and the user community
and where can we expect to see innovation in EDA products? |
| Today, the bulk of
design is systematic. The focus is on solving the constraints of area,
timing, power, test and yield simultaneously. This is completely normal
in the evolution of a high-tech industry, a classic example being
how IT systems evolved from being command-line driven to using a GUI.
Now the architecture of a system needs to cope with dramatic complexity
and increased integrity – it is no longer enough to simply land
a probe on Mars; the Mars Rover was required to drive around for 2
years, whilst gathering its data and analysing it! Point innovation
has moved to the fringes – moving down towards silicon with
an emphasis on the physics and DfM (variation in yield can make
or break a company) and upwards in complexity towards platforms
and embedded software. The fundamental change in the last 5 years
is that platform-based (or IP-block based) design is now a reality.
IP blocks now exist for core elements such as advanced processor
cores, DSP cores, memories etc. Productivity can be directly linked
to the libraries and levels of abstraction used.
The desire for complexity is always moving up and the level of
abstraction gets proportionately higher. There is a real need to
trust what is happening below to behave in the way that is expected,
whilst simultaneously taking into account the physical effects at
the transistor level, use of strain in silicon, new materials etc.
Synopsys are the connector between design and manufacture, the
bridge, the “On” within System-on-Chip.
The implication of all this is that fewer people have the skills
to understand the entire spectrum of design. Synopsys staff consist
of those doing deep physics e.g. 3D modelling of magnetic fields
within the transistor, and system-level guys with a completely different
skill set.
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Do
you expect this innovation to come from the main players or is there
still room for specialist companies? |
Yes, there is still
room. Smaller companies are at the frontier of innovation, but point
innovations for point problems are not useful stand-alone –
they need to be absorbed into a systematic integrated system.
For example, Strained Silicon; can you have a package to model
strain vs. mobility? Yes, it’s a good thing to develop, but
the real value comes through doing this for 100,000 transistors
at a time to impact a complete SoC design.
For example, Verification; more verification used to require faster
simulation, but over the last 4-5 years just simulating a device
became the bottleneck. By bringing together test bench technology,
formal methods and assertion-based verification via SystemVerilog,
Synopsys delivered 5 times better coverage. |
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The
additional cost and time of getting finer geometry designs are really
becoming clear. You've coined the term "Techonomics" to
suggest that the advantages of scaling must impact the bottom-line
and the additional costs must be taken into account in intelligent
decision-making. Can you discuss further? |
The up and downturn
in 2000/2001 forced an industry maturity that was not previously
there. An economic shift of that magnitude (down 46% year-on-year)
meant a fundamental change in how the industry viewed economics
as it realised going for increased speed through smaller geometries
is not always the best way to make profit. For example, processor
companies are now multi-core and greater speed is delivered via
throughput rather than geometry.
This is all happening at a time when the consumer market is viciously
driving costs downwards.
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Tool
licenses are sold at a premium in Europe. Is this further hindering
the battle against off-shoring? |
The EDA industry
is in a global market and there is no longer a big difference in
pricing, though every Purchasing Manager in the World will tell
you he’s paying too much!
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What
specifically is Synopsys doing to encourage more innovation and
start-ups? |
Synopsys are engaged
with many start-ups and are always trying to find ways to make our
tools economically viable for them whilst being fair to those existing
companies that are competing with them.
Start-ups have the advantage of starting without history (no legacy
design flows, no design support personnel, no internal IP). They
can capitalise on the more systematic and IP-based world today and
simply use new optimised design flows “as-is” and the
latest off-the-shelf IP blocks. Start-ups can streamline and focus
on differentiation for their future success.
Synopsys has a new design environment called Pilot, providing a
complete solution, and companies who adopt this from scratch are
becoming more productive.
In the IT industry, many of the mature companies had problems overcoming
legacy and are now out of business! |
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There's
a view that the EDA industry needs closer co-operation and even
collaboration in developing open standards, working together to
crack the big issues; do you support this view? |
Synopsys is a driver
and leader of open standards. SystemVerilog was largely developed
by Synopsys and is now open and available and we are actively involved
in the Power standards and most language standards. A standard is
whatever gets used in practice - things that really work!
Synopsys have worked with many partners; ARM in particular in the
UK. Synopsys’ Verification Methodology Manual is one of the
most rapidly selling books in EDA and, working with ARM, we have
pioneered a new approach to Low Power design called the Intelligent
Energy Manager.
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NMI would like to thank Aart De Geus for providing his valuable
time and insight for this interview.
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Next
in the “Meet the CEO” series will be announced in the
near future……watch this space!
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